In 2 Cor 11:4 (Living Bible) it says--- You seem so gullible: you believe whatever anyone tells you even if he is preaching about another Jesus... I hate to admit this, but I was married to a Morman for 7yrs. My youngest daughter has 9 half Morman brothers and sisters. After her birth, her father wanted to dedicate her in the Morman church. I said OVER MY DEAD BODY! and it nearly was. But praise God, I'm still alive and my daughter has never been to a Morman church service. The Lord has protected her body, mind and spirit. Mormans follow after another Jesus. Their Jesus is the brother of Satan. Our Jesus created Satan. I thank God for his gift of discernment in these end times. We need to test the spirits and when we hear that someone believes in Jesus, we need to make sure we know which Jesus they're talking about.
You are SO right Sher. Some of the beliefs out there are scary. Jesus said, "by their fruits you will know them" and 1 John 4:1 says to test the spirits - - I think it's important to line everything up with the Bible!
OK -- Paul could definitely write a best seller auto-biography if he chose. Who do you know of that as experienced so much trauma in a lifetime? But it seems like what weighs the heaviest on him is in 11:28 - I have the DAILY burden of my concern for all the churches. Who is weak without my feeling that weakness? Who is led astray, and I do not burn with anger? He really wasn't concerned about his problems -- it was all about others (I wonder when I'll cross over to that kind of mind set??)
Paul caught a glimpse of heaven - - I wish I could! Maybe then I would realize all that Jesus gave up to come here, and what an incredible gift God longs to give me and everyone!
Doncha love God's answer to Paul's "please take away my thorn? "My grace is sufficient for you" I often think about that line when it comes to my sins - - but not the inconveniences or thorns of this life. I think that is the key to living a life of contentment.
I found the frustration of Paul interesting - - and it happens a lot in families & people groups today: 12:15 "I will gladly spend myself and all I have for you, even though it seems that the more I love you, the less you love me". I think it's because we battle entitlement.
Here's what Paul fears (very common in all the people groups I know) quarreling, jealousy, anger, selfishness, slander, gossip, arrogance, and disorderly behavior.
And I love his closing challenge: Be joyful. Grow to maturity. Encourage each other. Live in harmony and peace. THEN the love of God and peace will be with you:):) Thank you Paul for that challenge -- today, I will take it with me!
Sherrie, it is interesting what people come up with when they don't take the Bible as the Word of God & make up their own stuff. Kinda scary!
Paul is a good administrator here, dealing with all the stuff you hate to deal with in a group. I like how he says at the end of 11 that if he has to brag he'll brag about the humiliations that make him like Jesus. Nice way to think about such things...can't say I'm there yet. I'm still trying to get over what others think of me at times. Sad, but true.
12:9 will always be special to me. Message says it this way "My grace is enough; it's all you need. My strength comes into its own in your weakness." I definitely want to realize that God is all that I need.
Ever wonder what happened to all the "stuff" that was created / made for the tabernacle and the priests? It would have been awesome to be a priest down the line and have been able to wear the original Aaron outfit (29:29)
Blood was put on their earlobes, thumbs, and toes (do you think that was to signify what they heard, did, and where they went?
God was all about communication. The burnt offering alter was where he would meet and speak to the people via the priest / and the incense represented the people's prayers back to God. It must have made God sad that the people were not holy enough for Him to be able to speak face to face as in the old Adam and Eve days.
I didn't realize the alter of incense was such a bitty thing! only 3 feet high and a 18" square (but it would make it a lot easier to carry!!)
I like thinking that God had his own version of oil and incense that was reserved just for Him! His own fragrance:)
I wish I could have seen the work of Bezalel and Oholiab. To have God's creative and craftsman spirit spread over you -- the work they did must have been awesome. What a special gift to be called and annointed for God with this talent!
Again -- it's pretty clear how important the 7th day was for God -- so many times that #7 appears as God's number. It really plays a big part in Revelation in the end time events. Just like God had a special oil and incense that are holy; He also has a special day! "This is a covenant obligation for all time (31:16)
Aaron was a weak leader. I wonder if it was because he grew up with all these people, or was just a people pleaser, or maybe he was just trying to save his own skin. He went above and beyond the people's request for a calf (32:5)
Moses on the other had, was strong enough to debate with God!! That takes some guts!! But then, once Moses saw with his own eyes how disgusting the people's actions were, Moses had the same reaction as God -- burning with anger.
Was it only Levites that came and stood with Moses? It doesn't sound like the Levites killed everyone - - maybe only the instigators. Anyway - - pretty hard to believe the people turned so quickly and completely after witnessing so much of God's power. What would I have done if I'd have been there.
And once again the story shows; choices have consequences. So many times I hear - - God is a God of love, how can you judge and discipline someone for their actions. Moses sure held them accountable for their actions - so did God.
What would it be like to hold a table of stone - - and see God's penmanship - - and read what he said. His finger must change whatever it touches (whether it's a table of stone, or my heart of stone)
How quickly these services would have become like so much stuff to do for me. Just reading them, I can see how they might be impressive to begin with, but a daily repetition would become mundane. It's like we can get today with our daily time with God. It can be taken for granted. I don't like doing the same thing over & over, I like variety.
I am also struck by how something that so impressed/scared the people (God's presence/voice on Mt Sinai) could be so quickly forgotten & they could call a common thing, they'd made holy & god. When I look at church, do I realize His presence is there? Do I tremble at the thought or do I treat it like a normal building, my thoughts/actions/words showing that it's just a plain building, not the place where He waits to meet with me? If He were to show up in a visible Presence, would I approach my worship the same way? I think we've brought God down to our level more than we should at times. He is the God that walked with Adam/Eve in the cool of the day in the garden, yes, but He's also a God that made a solid mountain of rock shake at His Presence & burn with fire. I need to spend time in the presence/realization of both these aspects of God.
I was wondering about the blood on their lobes, thumbs & big toe too Linda, makes sense what you said. I also wonder why the Levites didn't kill Aaron. He might have been the priest but he cemented the people's desires in the calf. God works with different people in different ways & this is obviously one of those times. He wants our hearts & He goes about it differently with each one of us - thankfully!
In Exodus 30, during the census everyone was to pay 50 cents no matter what their income to care for the Tabernacle and the repairs and costs that are connected with it. Everyone was equally responsible.
In Chapter 31, because the people were constructing the Tabernacle and the furniture for it, I think there would have been the temptation to work, work, work for the Lord and not rest. I think that's why the reminder to rest on the Sabbath is inserted here. Everyone would have been caught up in the excitement of the project.
In 32, I found it interesting in verses 2 and 3 that Aaron told the MEN, women, BOYS and girls to give him their gold earrings so he could make a golden calf. It wasn't a tradition of the people of Israel for men to wear earrings. This tells me that there was some riff raff or foreigners who spread their ungodly customs among the people. The ungodly among the people of Israel quickly turned them into a rebellious group. The people of Israel had been slaves to the Egyptians. They were now living in freedom and probably weren't very skilled at making choices for themselves. I think they were still in the slavery mindset and were willing to follow after anyone who was willing to lead them even if it was evil. They hadn't learned how to think for themselves yet.
A lot of church people are like this. They'll sit in church all their lives and follow the leader and never question the teaching. They live in slavery instead of the freedom of Jesus Christ.
Man! I just LOVE processing these texts with you guys!
Chris - I'm so glad that you said that about coming into God's presence:) Really good good reminder - - and yeah! I don't know WHY they didn't go for Aaron - - seems like he was an instigator of part of it anyway.
And Sher -- I thought the same thing about the census tax -- wondering why we don't just do the same thing with taxes now? I've heard it would simplify taxes so very much to do it that way.
OK you guys - - I'm cookin in Abaline TX. It's 9:30 and 95 degrees -- so it's cooled down some they say. Landed here @ sundown; will leave early tomorrow.
Lot of blood and guts in this section of Samuel. I think Joab was left handed (random trivia) since he had his dagger in his left hand.
Throughout David's life -- he hangs on to God as his rock and fortress - - a prayer of faithfulness to God.
Wonder why 23:39 says there were thirty-seven in all when talking about the thirty mighty men? They must have really loved David -- would have done anything for him (like getting him that drink of water). I think the reason was - - David really loved and respected them. Obviously he loved fighting with them and being a part of all that went on in his kingdom.
24:1 sounds like the Lord was behind David's decision to take the census - - then later, David was the one held accountable for the action -- what do you guys think??
O! and I love the faithfulness of the mom in 21:10. That is a beautiful picture of love in a horrific situation.
Can't say this section of Samuel was too inspiring to me, so I'll be interested to see what thoughts you guys came up with:)
Sherrie, I like your thought about the Sabbath reminder. Seems like we're doing this again too. We get all caught up in what WE have to accomplish that we run over the Sabbath. And to stop & rest is a sign that it's God that's making us holy according to the Bible, it's not what we're accomplishing. We're getting it backwards - AGAIN!!!
The words of Ps 18 must be very important to be listed twice in the Bible. I was again blessed by them & loved the word pics of God David used.
22:33 really stood out to me because of yesterday. "Is not this the God who armed me well, then aimed me in the right direction?" I had a test yesterday that I failed miserably a month ago but God had bolstered my defenses a ton in the month & it went a LOT better this time!
David had a lot of courageous men in his army. Uriah was one of his best men & David had him killed so flippantly because of passion. Very strong emotion, that we all know so well & is hard to battle.
David's commment in 24:25 bears more thought "I'm not going to offer God, my God, sacrifices that are no sacrifice". I wonder what I try to give God that really isn't a sacrifice on my part. Kinda like giving stuff to Goodwill, is it really a sacrifice or just worn out, not used anymore? Shouldn't I give Him the best of me?
I didn't realize Chris that there was a cross-over with Ps 18 and 2 Samuel! I went back and read that over:) and I appreciated your thoughts on sacrifice and Goodwill
I loved Psalms 62 and David's emphasis on waiting quietly before God (1 and again in 5) So many times I want to FIX things or WORRY about things. For me it takes mental discipline to wait on God and watch His plan unfold. I think when we step in -- we actually miss seeing His plan and miss the blessing He has in store for us.
I love David's word pic of being broke-down wall or a tottering fence. In my mind, I see an aged David - who is feeling the aches & pains of old age and a life of battles. Now David realizes in more ways than one how he must depend on his Rock. For some reason - - I think he's thinking about Absolum in verse 4. How it must have hurt him to have his own son turn so violently and cunningly against him.
vs 9 - - good counsel about looking to God and not the people around us for our wisdom, peace, and self-esteem.
Linda, I too enjoyed the thought of waiting on God in 62. In my version it says "I'll wait as long as He says..." Yikes! He always has a longer wait than I want! I'm like the little kid always asking "now can I, now? Are we there yet?" But in v1 David says he waits because "everything I need comes from Him" & in v5 it's "everything I hope for comes from Him". Our needs & wants come from God...of course it makes sense, but more often than not, I want the drive thru version instead of the sit down meal that takes time to get there & enjoy.
60:11 says that "human help is worthless". So easy for me to bend that & take it to an extreme. Also 62:7,8 "My help and glory are in God—granite-strength and safe-harbor-God. So trust him absolutely, people; lay your lives on the line for him. God is a safe place to be." But if I don't look to people for help then I need to trust God & I don't always do that either. Getting WAY better on that though. I like the last part. "God is a safe place to be", very comforting word pic for me. And He's helping me balance out my people trust issues too.
Throughout the chapters of 38-41; God covers everything we know: The sky/universe, the wild animals, the mightiest of creatures - - he's in control of everything.
Job is so accountable - - no questioning now; I am nothing - - how could I ever find the answers? I have nothing more to say. And then in 42 Job says: It is I -- and I was talking about things knew nothing about. I had only heard about you before, but now I have seen you with my own eyes. I take back everything I said and I sit in dust and ashes to show my repentance.
I feel very Jobian this morning. Yesterday - Duane and I encountered some very scary weather - - and a very scary situation in the plane. I found myself (just like those disciples in the boat) totally unaware of God's presence. Yet - - as we see here in Job, and as we saw in the boat story - God is in total control. It was a Jobian moment for me; and I am sitting humbly in my dust and ashes right now. But I know he uses these experiences to teach us a lot about ourselves, and about Himself.
Job got back double of everything - - all the animals, and . . . in the resurrection, he'll have double the children too!
I love how Job extends the compassion of God on to his daughters and he put the in his will.
Also -- I thought it was a bit interesting that in verse 11 that NOW all the brothers, sisters, and former friends show up. Where were they when he was down in the dumps! Man is so fickle (and I'm pointing at me)
The way God goes on & on about leviathan I wonder if that's an allegory for God? Certainly wouldn't want to meet this creature when I'm out on the ocean!
Job said he just went off rumors of God but now he's seen Him with his own eyes & heard Him with his own ears. Job's saying he even misunderstood God & His ways of working but now he submitted to Him & would trust Him. Wow, I was thinking Job was pretty trusting to begin with. Just shows that there's always room to grow. So Job's 3 friends have to give an offering but what about the young upstart Elihu? There's no mention of him! Hmm, one of those things we'll have to wait until heaven to find out I guess.
The Message says the names of Job's daughters were Dove, Cinnamon & Darkeyes. I think I like the non-translated names better!
The people of Judah coming to Jeremiah & asking him to seek God & they'd do whatever God said & then blatantly disobeying it is similar to us today. We come to the Bible, seek counsel & then when it doesn't line up with what we want to hear we disregard it & say "oh, God is love, He won't hold it against me". Obviously, truth is to be obeyed. There are always consequences for disobedience, even if it is delayed until the 2nd coming. I want to be like David who said he delighted in the truth. I want my pride to be broken, destroyed - it has to be if God's will is to be my will. Renew a right spirit in me Jesus!
I like God taking time to tell Jeremiah in 45 that he'd be ok, but it's going to get pretty bad.
Same for Judah at the end of 46. "But I won't finish you off. I have more work left to do on you. I'll punish you, but fairly. No, I'm not finished with you yet". Thankfully, He's not finished with me yet either!
Ok peeps, I'm away from technology this wkend so I won't be posting again til, Tuesday! Can't wait to see what you get out of Gal 1:10 though. One of my fav verses. Here's a sneak peek at the Message version. "Am I now trying to win the approval of human beings, or of God? Or am I trying to please people? If I were still trying to please people, I would not be a servant of Christ." Can't tell you how many times God has to bring this back to my heart. Have a great wkend!
I was pretty amazed at the people of Judah - - they said they'd follow God's advice even if they didn't like it -- but they sure didn't. (sigh) as you say Chris, we're not too far away from the same mindset; we hope to manipulate God, not cooperate with Him. His patience with us is amazing.
44:4 shows God's frustration with us: "Again and again I sent my servants, the prophets, to plead with them . . . Why are you destroying yourselves?"
Okay ladies - - notice how the women were instrumental in stomping their feet and saying, "I'll do it my way?" They seem to have a pretty big influence - - we need to be careful to submit to God, and influence the people around us to be open to God's leading. We can be a mighty force for good, or evil!!
Ever heard of the similarities between the Easter holiday and the Queen of Heaven (Ishtar, like Easter). Also the cakes marked with her image (hot cross buns). I don't know if there's anything to that -- but I have heard the symbolism of Easter comes from these traditions.
Baruch sounds like he was kindof caught in the middle -- being Jeremiah's scribe. I'd like to know more about him. But, God rewarded him for his sacrifices.
46:27 "I will bring you home again from distant lands . . . do not be afraid, Jacob, for I am with you. Someday, God will bring us home! YEAH:)
I was thinking about the man brought to Jesus on the mat. I think he was probably dying. When people are dying, they many times have a great desire to be right with God -- that's why I think Jesus' words of compassion were so precious to the man "your sins are forgiven" the physical healing was wonderful too -- but I'm guessing the spiritual healing was even more precious.
Did you notice in 5: 11 and 28, the people Jesus called "left everything" and they left it when they were in the middle of prosperity.
Pretty somber words in 5:32 "I haven't come to call those who think they are righteous" Jesus didn't even want to waste his time working for them -- as they felt they had all the answers.
I love the different times when people flocked to Jesus; the people that didn't have all the answers, like in 5:1 great crowds pressed in on Him to listen to the word of God. That must have been so exciting for Jesus - - people wanting to understand the scriptures. What must have drained him was the Pharisees and they constant, "why do you do this? "why do you do that?" "You shouldn't" "Shame on you" Hard to believe that they were counseling God when they did this.
I love Luke's version of the Sermon on the Mount. Jesus had a heart for man to learn to love and trust. He says to love our enemies twice! 25 and again in 35. Gives us a lot of examples of heart love -- not just love that's seen by others so they'll think better of us - -
And I love his take on not judging - - look to your own life. I know there is accountability that has to happen for blatant sin; so how do you balance the two? any thoughts?
In 2 Cor 11:4 (Living Bible) it says--- You seem so gullible: you believe whatever anyone tells you even if he is preaching about another Jesus...
ReplyDeleteI hate to admit this, but I was married to a Morman for 7yrs. My youngest daughter has 9 half Morman brothers and sisters. After her birth, her father wanted to dedicate her in the Morman church. I said OVER MY DEAD BODY! and it nearly was. But praise God, I'm still alive and my daughter has never been to a Morman church service. The Lord has protected her body, mind and spirit.
Mormans follow after another Jesus. Their Jesus is the brother of Satan. Our Jesus created Satan. I thank God for his gift of discernment in these end times. We need to test the spirits and when we hear that someone believes in Jesus, we need to make sure we know which Jesus they're talking about.
You are SO right Sher. Some of the beliefs out there are scary. Jesus said, "by their fruits you will know them" and 1 John 4:1 says to test the spirits - - I think it's important to line everything up with the Bible!
ReplyDeleteYou've had a very amazing life Sher!
OK -- Paul could definitely write a best seller auto-biography if he chose. Who do you know of that as experienced so much trauma in a lifetime? But it seems like what weighs the heaviest on him is in 11:28 - I have the DAILY burden of my concern for all the churches. Who is weak without my feeling that weakness? Who is led astray, and I do not burn with anger? He really wasn't concerned about his problems -- it was all about others (I wonder when I'll cross over to that kind of mind set??)
ReplyDeletePaul caught a glimpse of heaven - - I wish I could! Maybe then I would realize all that Jesus gave up to come here, and what an incredible gift God longs to give me and everyone!
Doncha love God's answer to Paul's "please take away my thorn? "My grace is sufficient for you" I often think about that line when it comes to my sins - - but not the inconveniences or thorns of this life. I think that is the key to living a life of contentment.
I found the frustration of Paul interesting - - and it happens a lot in families & people groups today: 12:15 "I will gladly spend myself and all I have for you, even though it seems that the more I love you, the less you love me". I think it's because we battle entitlement.
Here's what Paul fears (very common in all the people groups I know) quarreling, jealousy, anger, selfishness, slander, gossip, arrogance, and disorderly behavior.
And I love his closing challenge: Be joyful. Grow to maturity. Encourage each other. Live in harmony and peace. THEN the love of God and peace will be with you:):) Thank you Paul for that challenge -- today, I will take it with me!
Sherrie, it is interesting what people come up with when they don't take the Bible as the Word of God & make up their own stuff. Kinda scary!
ReplyDeletePaul is a good administrator here, dealing with all the stuff you hate to deal with in a group. I like how he says at the end of 11 that if he has to brag he'll brag about the humiliations that make him like Jesus. Nice way to think about such things...can't say I'm there yet. I'm still trying to get over what others think of me at times. Sad, but true.
12:9 will always be special to me. Message says it this way "My grace is enough; it's all you need. My strength comes into its own in your weakness." I definitely want to realize that God is all that I need.
Ever wonder what happened to all the "stuff" that was created / made for the tabernacle and the priests? It would have been awesome to be a priest down the line and have been able to wear the original Aaron outfit (29:29)
ReplyDeleteBlood was put on their earlobes, thumbs, and toes (do you think that was to signify what they heard, did, and where they went?
God was all about communication. The burnt offering alter was where he would meet and speak to the people via the priest / and the incense represented the people's prayers back to God. It must have made God sad that the people were not holy enough for Him to be able to speak face to face as in the old Adam and Eve days.
I didn't realize the alter of incense was such a bitty thing! only 3 feet high and a 18" square (but it would make it a lot easier to carry!!)
I like thinking that God had his own version of oil and incense that was reserved just for Him! His own fragrance:)
I wish I could have seen the work of Bezalel and Oholiab. To have God's creative and craftsman spirit spread over you -- the work they did must have been awesome. What a special gift to be called and annointed for God with this talent!
Again -- it's pretty clear how important the 7th day was for God -- so many times that #7 appears as God's number. It really plays a big part in Revelation in the end time events. Just like God had a special oil and incense that are holy; He also has a special day! "This is a covenant obligation for all time (31:16)
Aaron was a weak leader. I wonder if it was because he grew up with all these people, or was just a people pleaser, or maybe he was just trying to save his own skin. He went above and beyond the people's request for a calf (32:5)
Moses on the other had, was strong enough to debate with God!! That takes some guts!! But then, once Moses saw with his own eyes how disgusting the people's actions were, Moses had the same reaction as God -- burning with anger.
Was it only Levites that came and stood with Moses? It doesn't sound like the Levites killed everyone - - maybe only the instigators. Anyway - - pretty hard to believe the people turned so quickly and completely after witnessing so much of God's power. What would I have done if I'd have been there.
And once again the story shows; choices have consequences. So many times I hear - - God is a God of love, how can you judge and discipline someone for their actions. Moses sure held them accountable for their actions - so did God.
What would it be like to hold a table of stone - - and see God's penmanship - - and read what he said. His finger must change whatever it touches (whether it's a table of stone, or my heart of stone)
How quickly these services would have become like so much stuff to do for me. Just reading them, I can see how they might be impressive to begin with, but a daily repetition would become mundane. It's like we can get today with our daily time with God. It can be taken for granted. I don't like doing the same thing over & over, I like variety.
ReplyDeleteI am also struck by how something that so impressed/scared the people (God's presence/voice on Mt Sinai) could be so quickly forgotten & they could call a common thing, they'd made holy & god. When I look at church, do I realize His presence is there? Do I tremble at the thought or do I treat it like a normal building, my thoughts/actions/words showing that it's just a plain building, not the place where He waits to meet with me? If He were to show up in a visible Presence, would I approach my worship the same way? I think we've brought God down to our level more than we should at times. He is the God that walked with Adam/Eve in the cool of the day in the garden, yes, but He's also a God that made a solid mountain of rock shake at His Presence & burn with fire. I need to spend time in the presence/realization of both these aspects of God.
I was wondering about the blood on their lobes, thumbs & big toe too Linda, makes sense what you said.
ReplyDeleteI also wonder why the Levites didn't kill Aaron. He might have been the priest but he cemented the people's desires in the calf. God works with different people in different ways & this is obviously one of those times. He wants our hearts & He goes about it differently with each one of us - thankfully!
In Exodus 30, during the census everyone was to pay 50 cents no matter what their income to care for the Tabernacle and the repairs and costs that are connected with it. Everyone was equally responsible.
ReplyDeleteIn Chapter 31, because the people were constructing the Tabernacle and the furniture for it, I think there would have been the temptation to work, work, work for the Lord and not rest. I think that's why the reminder to rest on the Sabbath is inserted here. Everyone would have been caught up in the excitement of the project.
In 32, I found it interesting in verses 2 and 3 that Aaron told the MEN, women, BOYS and girls to give him their gold earrings so he could make a golden calf. It wasn't a tradition of the people of Israel for men to wear earrings. This tells me that there was some riff raff or foreigners who spread their ungodly customs among the people.
The ungodly among the people of Israel quickly turned them into a rebellious group. The people of Israel had been slaves to the Egyptians. They were now living in freedom and probably weren't very skilled at making choices for themselves. I think they were still in the slavery mindset and were willing to follow after anyone who was willing to lead them even if it was evil. They hadn't learned how to think for themselves yet.
A lot of church people are like this. They'll sit in church all their lives and follow the leader and never question the teaching. They live in slavery instead of the freedom of Jesus Christ.
Man! I just LOVE processing these texts with you guys!
ReplyDeleteChris - I'm so glad that you said that about coming into God's presence:) Really good good reminder - - and yeah! I don't know WHY they didn't go for Aaron - - seems like he was an instigator of part of it anyway.
And Sher -- I thought the same thing about the census tax -- wondering why we don't just do the same thing with taxes now? I've heard it would simplify taxes so very much to do it that way.
OK you guys - - I'm cookin in Abaline TX. It's 9:30 and 95 degrees -- so it's cooled down some they say. Landed here @ sundown; will leave early tomorrow.
Lot of blood and guts in this section of Samuel. I think Joab was left handed (random trivia) since he had his dagger in his left hand.
ReplyDeleteThroughout David's life -- he hangs on to God as his rock and fortress - - a prayer of faithfulness to God.
Wonder why 23:39 says there were thirty-seven in all when talking about the thirty mighty men? They must have really loved David -- would have done anything for him (like getting him that drink of water). I think the reason was - - David really loved and respected them. Obviously he loved fighting with them and being a part of all that went on in his kingdom.
24:1 sounds like the Lord was behind David's decision to take the census - - then later, David was the one held accountable for the action -- what do you guys think??
O! and I love the faithfulness of the mom in 21:10. That is a beautiful picture of love in a horrific situation.
Can't say this section of Samuel was too inspiring to me, so I'll be interested to see what thoughts you guys came up with:)
Sherrie, I like your thought about the Sabbath reminder. Seems like we're doing this again too. We get all caught up in what WE have to accomplish that we run over the Sabbath. And to stop & rest is a sign that it's God that's making us holy according to the Bible, it's not what we're accomplishing. We're getting it backwards - AGAIN!!!
ReplyDeleteThe words of Ps 18 must be very important to be listed twice in the Bible. I was again blessed by them & loved the word pics of God David used.
22:33 really stood out to me because of yesterday. "Is not this the God who armed me well, then aimed me in the right direction?" I had a test yesterday that I failed miserably a month ago but God had bolstered my defenses a ton in the month & it went a LOT better this time!
David had a lot of courageous men in his army. Uriah was one of his best men & David had him killed so flippantly because of passion. Very strong emotion, that we all know so well & is hard to battle.
David's commment in 24:25 bears more thought "I'm not going to offer God, my God, sacrifices that are no sacrifice". I wonder what I try to give God that really isn't a sacrifice on my part. Kinda like giving stuff to Goodwill, is it really a sacrifice or just worn out, not used anymore? Shouldn't I give Him the best of me?
I didn't realize Chris that there was a cross-over with Ps 18 and 2 Samuel! I went back and read that over:) and I appreciated your thoughts on sacrifice and Goodwill
ReplyDeleteI loved Psalms 62 and David's emphasis on waiting quietly before God (1 and again in 5) So many times I want to FIX things or WORRY about things. For me it takes mental discipline to wait on God and watch His plan unfold. I think when we step in -- we actually miss seeing His plan and miss the blessing He has in store for us.
I love David's word pic of being broke-down wall or a tottering fence. In my mind, I see an aged David - who is feeling the aches & pains of old age and a life of battles. Now David realizes in more ways than one how he must depend on his Rock. For some reason - - I think he's thinking about Absolum in verse 4. How it must have hurt him to have his own son turn so violently and cunningly against him.
vs 9 - - good counsel about looking to God and not the people around us for our wisdom, peace, and self-esteem.
Linda, I too enjoyed the thought of waiting on God in 62. In my version it says "I'll wait as long as He says..." Yikes! He always has a longer wait than I want! I'm like the little kid always asking "now can I, now? Are we there yet?" But in v1 David says he waits because "everything I need comes from Him" & in v5 it's "everything I hope for comes from Him". Our needs & wants come from God...of course it makes sense, but more often than not, I want the drive thru version instead of the sit down meal that takes time to get there & enjoy.
ReplyDelete60:11 says that "human help is worthless". So easy for me to bend that & take it to an extreme. Also 62:7,8 "My help and glory are in God—granite-strength and safe-harbor-God. So trust him absolutely, people; lay your lives on the line for him. God is a safe place to be."
But if I don't look to people for help then I need to trust God & I don't always do that either. Getting WAY better on that though. I like the last part. "God is a safe place to be", very comforting word pic for me. And He's helping me balance out my people trust issues too.
Throughout the chapters of 38-41; God covers everything we know: The sky/universe, the wild animals, the mightiest of creatures - - he's in control of everything.
ReplyDeleteJob is so accountable - - no questioning now; I am nothing - - how could I ever find the answers? I have nothing more to say. And then in 42 Job says: It is I -- and I was talking about things knew nothing about. I had only heard about you before, but now I have seen you with my own eyes. I take back everything I said and I sit in dust and ashes to show my repentance.
I feel very Jobian this morning. Yesterday - Duane and I encountered some very scary weather - - and a very scary situation in the plane. I found myself (just like those disciples in the boat) totally unaware of God's presence. Yet - - as we see here in Job, and as we saw in the boat story - God is in total control. It was a Jobian moment for me; and I am sitting humbly in my dust and ashes right now. But I know he uses these experiences to teach us a lot about ourselves, and about Himself.
Job got back double of everything - - all the animals, and . . . in the resurrection, he'll have double the children too!
I love how Job extends the compassion of God on to his daughters and he put the in his will.
Also -- I thought it was a bit interesting that in verse 11 that NOW all the brothers, sisters, and former friends show up. Where were they when he was down in the dumps! Man is so fickle (and I'm pointing at me)
The way God goes on & on about leviathan I wonder if that's an allegory for God? Certainly wouldn't want to meet this creature when I'm out on the ocean!
ReplyDeleteJob said he just went off rumors of God but now he's seen Him with his own eyes & heard Him with his own ears. Job's saying he even misunderstood God & His ways of working but now he submitted to Him & would trust Him. Wow, I was thinking Job was pretty trusting to begin with. Just shows that there's always room to grow.
So Job's 3 friends have to give an offering but what about the young upstart Elihu? There's no mention of him! Hmm, one of those things we'll have to wait until heaven to find out I guess.
The Message says the names of Job's daughters were Dove, Cinnamon & Darkeyes. I think I like the non-translated names better!
Yeah Linda, fear is a great discerner of our hearts. Glad you're safe to sit in the dust/ashes though! :D
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ReplyDeleteWow Chris---you were right! It worked---yayyyy.
ReplyDeleteNow I just have to read the Bible...
The people of Judah coming to Jeremiah & asking him to seek God & they'd do whatever God said & then blatantly disobeying it is similar to us today. We come to the Bible, seek counsel & then when it doesn't line up with what we want to hear we disregard it & say "oh, God is love, He won't hold it against me". Obviously, truth is to be obeyed. There are always consequences for disobedience, even if it is delayed until the 2nd coming. I want to be like David who said he delighted in the truth. I want my pride to be broken, destroyed - it has to be if God's will is to be my will. Renew a right spirit in me Jesus!
ReplyDeleteI like God taking time to tell Jeremiah in 45 that he'd be ok, but it's going to get pretty bad.
Same for Judah at the end of 46. "But I won't finish you off. I have more work left to do on you. I'll punish you, but fairly. No, I'm not finished with you yet". Thankfully, He's not finished with me yet either!
Ok peeps, I'm away from technology this wkend so I won't be posting again til, Tuesday! Can't wait to see what you get out of Gal 1:10 though. One of my fav verses. Here's a sneak peek at the Message version.
"Am I now trying to win the approval of human beings, or of God? Or am I trying to please people? If I were still trying to please people, I would not be a servant of Christ." Can't tell you how many times God has to bring this back to my heart.
Have a great wkend!
I was pretty amazed at the people of Judah - - they said they'd follow God's advice even if they didn't like it -- but they sure didn't. (sigh) as you say Chris, we're not too far away from the same mindset; we hope to manipulate God, not cooperate with Him. His patience with us is amazing.
ReplyDelete44:4 shows God's frustration with us: "Again and again I sent my servants, the prophets, to plead with them . . . Why are you destroying yourselves?"
Okay ladies - - notice how the women were instrumental in stomping their feet and saying, "I'll do it my way?" They seem to have a pretty big influence - - we need to be careful to submit to God, and influence the people around us to be open to God's leading. We can be a mighty force for good, or evil!!
Ever heard of the similarities between the Easter holiday and the Queen of Heaven (Ishtar, like Easter). Also the cakes marked with her image (hot cross buns). I don't know if there's anything to that -- but I have heard the symbolism of Easter comes from these traditions.
Baruch sounds like he was kindof caught in the middle -- being Jeremiah's scribe. I'd like to know more about him. But, God rewarded him for his sacrifices.
46:27 "I will bring you home again from distant lands . . . do not be afraid, Jacob, for I am with you. Someday, God will bring us home! YEAH:)
I was thinking about the man brought to Jesus on the mat. I think he was probably dying. When people are dying, they many times have a great desire to be right with God -- that's why I think Jesus' words of compassion were so precious to the man "your sins are forgiven" the physical healing was wonderful too -- but I'm guessing the spiritual healing was even more precious.
ReplyDeleteDid you notice in 5: 11 and 28, the people Jesus called "left everything" and they left it when they were in the middle of prosperity.
Pretty somber words in 5:32 "I haven't come to call those who think they are righteous" Jesus didn't even want to waste his time working for them -- as they felt they had all the answers.
I love the different times when people flocked to Jesus; the people that didn't have all the answers, like in 5:1 great crowds pressed in on Him to listen to the word of God. That must have been so exciting for Jesus - - people wanting to understand the scriptures. What must have drained him was the Pharisees and they constant, "why do you do this? "why do you do that?" "You shouldn't" "Shame on you" Hard to believe that they were counseling God when they did this.
I love Luke's version of the Sermon on the Mount. Jesus had a heart for man to learn to love and trust. He says to love our enemies twice! 25 and again in 35. Gives us a lot of examples of heart love -- not just love that's seen by others so they'll think better of us - -
And I love his take on not judging - - look to your own life. I know there is accountability that has to happen for blatant sin; so how do you balance the two? any thoughts?