O THAT was a rich reading this morning - - like having breakfast on strawberry shortcake with lots of whipping cream!!
I love his encouragement right off the bat: WHATEVER HAPPENS - - rejoice in the Lord. OK -- you probably can't rejoice in the circumstances, but you can always bend your thoughts to the God that loves you -- this will be your safeguard!!
I love his clear instruction about how futile it is to chase after things -- after performance -- it's all worthless compared with the infinite value of knowing Christ Jesus.
I was thinking that God extends love; we extend faith; God extends grace; we extend a life submitted to Him; he extends the abundant life of the fruit of the Spirit to us -- it's a two way connection!
I was reading along saying, yes Paul; that's right - that's right! "I want to know Christ and experience the mighty power that raised him from the dead" You GO Paul - right on! Then came the next sentence - - "I want to suffer with him, sharing in his death (screeeeetch! Wait - do I really want that? Maybe he's talking about baptism -- I can do that; but suffer? die? - I've got more growing to do - - help me Holy Spirit! I need way more submission)
Paul who has this complete desire to be lost in Christ's plan for him -- presses on to possess perfection. It can't be from his own works -- he's already talked about that; so he presses on with focus on God's will for his life -- pressing on to submission, to abandonment -- and that takes pressing; to lay down the control minute by minute.
Also -- when we have different points of vie (vs 15) if we stay open to what the Bible says, and open to the Holy Spirit, then God will make it plain to you. That's a precious promise - because there are confusing issues. I think Paul shows here that the main thing is to know Christ and Him crucified (that's where our salvation centers) the rest will come in time.
Doncha love 4:6&7? I love how bending our minds off worry and on to prayer will give us peace that guards our hearts and minds. Especially our minds - - my mind can go wild with "what ifs?" that rarely happen. What a blessing to relax in His will! He makes it easy, I make it hard.
and finally - Paul's great take on contentment toward the end of 4. I just LOVE the book of Philippians -- just wish it wasn't so hard to spell!
Everything I think is important - Paul says is garbage compared to knowing Christ. He had all this worldly pedigree & said he was ripping it up & throwing it in the trash so that he could embrace Christ & be embraced by Him. That was his whole focus. I remember when my dad was dying, just watching him lose interest in worldly stuff & just read his Bible in his lucid moments. It was sooo neat to see him change his priorities. We don't all get to do that & so I want to do it now, while I'm able. I want Jesus to be my pedigree & forget what this world thinks is important.
Like Paul says in 3:9 I don't want a petty, inferior, rules based righteousness. But (v10) I want to personally experience His resurrection power. Not just when I'm physically resurrected but even now I can be transformed.
In 4:2 Paul publicly encourages 2 believers to reconcile. This must be because they had already publicly had differences. And Paul could say this because he had had issues with John Mark, but later said that he was a treasured companion who had helped him a lot so you know he had some experience in reconciliation.
Really appreciate the MSGs take on 4:4 "Celebrate God all day, every day. I mean, revel in him!"
And then 4:6 I need this a.m. "Let petitions and praises shape your worries into prayers, letting God know your concerns. Before you know it, a sense of God's wholeness, everything coming together for good, will come and settle you down". Need that settling down right now.
The paraphrase for 4:13 is a blessing too - "Whatever I have, wherever I am, I can make it through anything in the One who makes me who I am". So, yes, I can make it through this day though calls are coming in while I'm typing. Incredible!
Seems like I really needed this today. Hmmm, can't say it was a coincidence. I can have this peace like Paul says in v23. "Receive and experience the amazing grace of the Master, Jesus Christ, deep, deep within yourselves".
Oh Linda, I finally got time to read your comments. I was right there with you on the knowing that awesome resurrection power & I was stomping on the brakes with ya at the suffering part! LOL
And I was trying to think positive about this whole thing & I'm so thankful that I have tomorrow off work too & I'm not on call. Even if that's a bit selfish, it helped.
I never realized that it was the same day they were consecrated priests that Nadab & Abihu disobeyed God & died. Sad. To me, it seems like their hearts weren't impressed at all with the holiness of God. They didn't have the true heart of worship when God's presence came down. Kinda like Pastor Mike's sermon Sabbath. We can enjoy the worship service & it's all good there, but it's just an emotional ride & it's all for show. Does it really affect us when we enter everyday life though? Am I being changed because I'm keeping my eyes on Jesus or am I changing because I want people to think I'm this great person because of what I'm doing. Scary. I need to care less what people think about me & be like Paul - who was totally abandoned to Jesus & was willing to lose his reputation & all his worldly credentials so that he could embrace Christ.
All the clean & unclean animals - I can see the wisdom in not allowing the garbage collectors of the animal world (the vultures, pigs, shell fish, etc) to be eaten by humans. Their job is to clean up the world, the carcasses of other animals so why do I want to eat them when they've got putrefied flesh or sickly animals in them. Yuck! I know some people have told me that after the cross everything is clean. Those animals are still doing their jobs, cleaning up garbage. After seeing what shrimp, crabs & pigs will eat (ANYTHING), there's no way I want that in my body. That's just gross. I know it tastes good but it's still garbage. I read an article that they've discovered how to make hamburgers out of human excrement. Just because they add chemicals to it & take all the smell out of it & purify it with ammonia, doesn't change what it is & I'm not touching it!
Why was the birth of a girl more purification time? Seems like this is punishment again for being a woman. Is labored harder on the woman if it's a girl vs. a boy? I don't know. Was it just the culture? It used to be a big deal in every family if there was a boy born to carry on the family name. Now, it doesn't seem like that big of a deal...unless I'm missing something.
I appreciate the compassion of Moses toward Aaron when Aaron said he couldn't carry out his duties due to the tragedy in his family (vs19). It must have been tough not to mourn (vs 6), but even though you might not grieve on the outside -- ya can't help but grieve on the inside.
It does sound like N and A scorned their position and the height of the celebration - - a distraction from the glory of God -- and for some reason, I always thought they were drunk when they did this - but I don't read that in Leviticus - hmmmm; not sure where I got that!
I refuse to eat grasshoppers; even if they are clean.
Yeah Chris - - I was wondering the same thing; why the difference between the birth of a boy and girl? I've had them both -- boys were a LOT harder; but that's just my situation. and what exactly does it mean to be unclean -- seems like it always is associated with blood; is it a health rule, or an illustration rule, or a spiritual rule?
The sons of Aaron place unholy fire in their censors----which reminds me of me. I think, oh--God wont care if I do this little thing or if I go here or if I do such and such a certain way. I rationalize that if I do something just one time it wont matter. This is just another way of saying I'm in control of my life instead of allowing Jesus to be in control of my life. He's teaching me instant and complete obedience to His voice. (The Bible says My sheep hear my voice, ---not my lambs hear My voice)
In verse 10 it says there is a difference between what is holy and what is common. Many times I mix up them up in my life or blend everything together. I'm learning to be Holy before the Lord.
In chapter 11, we have several dietary laws. These laws provided the Israelites specific ways to be holy – set apart for God. I believe that these food rules are still relevant today. Jesus came to fulfill the law---not take it away. And a lobster is just a big cockroach and who wants to eat that?
Interesting about the childbirth thing in chapter 12. I wonder if the sex of a child has different hormonal impacts on the mother. God always does something for a reason. Medically, in the future, I'm sure we'll find out there is a good reason for this law.
Nice personal applications Sherrie, I could really identify. I think I've read where cockroaches are extremely nutritional...or maybe that was grasshoppers or grubs. But if they taste anything close to lobster than I'm not interested because that was nasty!
Great stories today in the reading. But I did get sidetracked with one thing. At the end of 1 it says that Joram succeeded Ahaziah in the 2nd yr of Jehoram son of Jehoshephat. BUT in 3 Joram & Jehos. go to battle together. How's that possible?
Interesting that all the prophets & Elisha knew about Elijah being taken from Elisha. BUT obviously none of them knew HOW. I wonder if Elijah knew it wasn't going to be in death, maybe since he told Elisha that "if you see me..." I like Elisha's tenacity. He was tested but he wouldn't be distracted, nice lesson for me here. I'm easily distracted, I need to stay more focused; especially on the important things. Maybe it's because I don't discern if it's important to warrant the distraction. Hmmm...
So Elisha deals very sharply with the lack of respect towards elders. What a hard lesson for the parents of those children to learn as well. I'm sure parents used this illustration a lot when raising their kids. I can see the kids rolling their eyes after hearing it for the umpteenth time too. But obviously it's offensive to God.
Can't relate at all to sacrificing your own son. What a horrendous, desperate act. But here's something to ponder; if an idol-worshiping person is willing to give up everything - even their own flesh & blood to their god; why do we hesitate when we have the REAL God? True that it's similar to being in desperate straits & then promising God you'll serve Him if He gets you out of this alive, but still. That was an extreme act for a fake god, a man-made item. Shouldn't I be just as extreme for the One who made me?
Great lessons in the stories of the Shun. woman & Naaman but I'll stop here. A lot to think about for sure!
Good catch on the Jehoshaphat confusion -- maybe Jeho was like a king/father (England has a queen mother!) or maybe, Jeho was in charge of the army, even after his son became king. Both of these scenerios are unlikely, tho -- as it seems the king has to die before the son takes over.
I was just thinking about sacrificing the thing that is most important too you earlier this morning. I was thinking about Abraham, and how he was willing to give God everything - - his son! That'd be a tough give. We don't think a whole lot about sacrifice today - - but I think somewhere along the line, God will call each of us to walk that road in some way. Who is really the god/God in our life?
I was also thinking about how a lot rises and falls on leadership. In ch 1 -- Ahaziah lost a lot of good men because of his temper tantrum. Then a leader under the leader expressed humility- - and God honored it. How is that relevant today? We are led, in this country, by a group of leaders - - but we are held accountable to God as individuals. Same holds true in a community, a church, a family. (not sure where I'm going with this! - let's move on!)
I wonder why Elisha went to Mt. Carmel -- I wonder if he was present when Elijah experienced God's power there -- and he went back to connect.
Again -- another leadership moment; Elisha wouldn't have bothered with the 3 kings, except for his respect for Jeho:)
Didn't realize the harp was that important in prophecying!
Really? attacking a city with slings (3:25) THOSE must have been powerful slings. There was a lot of slinging back in those days; from David to Elisha!
Why did the Israelites withdraw once the king sacrificed his son? It couldn't be because the people inside were angry; they were pretty much captured. There were other statements carried out on walls and rooftops (thinking of Absolum) I guess I just don't understand the culture.
The woman of Schunem didn't focused on the one person that had a connection with God -- she didn't mourn to her husband, she didn't bother telling her tale to Gehazi - - she went straight to Elisha and then wouldn't leave until he came with her. God honors persistence. But I think the honor comes to a humble heart, not a manipulative heart.
Would you have eaten the poison soup if you saw Elisha throw in flour and then say, "it's ok now - go ahead"
Naaman was 100% in once he'd experienced God's power -- ready to do whatever God asked, and checking to make sure he was ok, even though the king had him go to the Rimmon worship - his heart was not there. He must have been a really good man - - seemed like everyone loved him, from the servant girl, to his officers; everyone was pulling for him. I'm guessing God (and all heaven) were majorly rejoicing once Namaan experienced His power and turned!
I would have watched other people eat the soup first before I did! LOL I'm weak in faith. Maybe I'd be braver if I'd seen other things Elisha had done or knew of how Elijah's spirit (really God's) rested on him.
Psalms 78 I have always enjoyed reading because of it's condensed version of Israel's deliverance & rebellion. It was just a good summary of history. I always can relate to the weakness of the people. I'm tempted to judge, but then I rehearse my life, sometimes I don't have to go back very far either, & I'm the same way. =:0
I am working with God at being constant in my faith & trust of Him & not looking at my circumstances or the people around me.
I have to say though that this reading kinda reminded me of what I'm reading in Unbroken. The POWs are crying out (inwardly if not outwardly) for deliverance from their tormentors. That's what 79 & 80 reminded me of.
I also think about my timing vs God's when I read these. I'm all about immediate relief & no suffering. Paul said it's a privilege to suffer for God & if we want to share in the glory, that suffering is necessary. Seems tho, that God knows what kind of suffering each of us "require" or maybe can endure is a better way to put it. So then I'm back to my cringing trust. One day I hope I can stand up, with my head held high & trust. I will get there - if I surrender.
I'm glad you experience cringing trust too -- good description of how I often feel!
78:2-4 is such a great intro; why we need to look back - - hidden lessons, stories our ancestors handed down. If we'd ever take the time to look back, there will be lessons -- we can learn from the past celebrations and mistakes.
Then 78 makes it pretty clear that when you don't trust God (I think He honors cringing trust as well as confident trust - but confident is the goal), He will pull you through - - a stronger person. If you turn your back, ignor, scoff, set up other idols - - and we have our idols today - - He will let you go.
Linda, learn from the past. Trust God, trust God, trust God!!
Lorie and I were talking yesterday how it's the difficult nose to nose with disasters that really make you think; take you off of the absent-minded living. It's those hard times that grow us, but we avoid them - - and by we, I mean me.
I don't know if we ever see the growth in the midst of the disaster -- but only as we look back. That's why it's so important to look back, evaluate, learn - - it gives us confidence for what is ahead.
In Psalm 78, apparently God was speaking, but the people weren't listening. (His sheep hear His voice, not his lambs). The people of Ephraim, though fully armed turned their backs and fled when the day of battle came.
I do this a lot---Stuff comes up and I huddle up thinking Satan will go away or leave me alone if I pretend I don't see him. It's such poppycock. I have to put on my armor and use all the weapons of warfare to FIGHT the attacks of the enemy--- whether it's disease, relationship issues, financial problems or whatever comes my way. We're to be warriors and take back the territory that Satan tries to steal from us.
And the people forgot about the wonderful miracles of God when He brought them out of Egypt. All they did was murmur. They weren't thankful for the provision of God. They complained about everything. And their murmuring kept them out of the promised land. This passage really convicted me. I'm trying to learn to be thankful for everything. Dirty dishes--because at least I have dishes---toys all over the apt---because at least I'm blessed to have a grandson who puts them there---demonic neighbors---because I'm learning how to take authority over demons and make them bow to the name of Jesus---no brakes on my car because I know it's an opportunity for the Lord to show up in a big way and give me a mighty miracle.
God was so angry with His people that came out of Egypt that in Psalms 78:61 it says He allowed His glory to be given to the enemy. Wow---I never want that to happen to me. But it looks like this could happen to the United States soon. Like the old saying --As the church goes, so goes the nation. And the church isn't doing so well at the moment.
Wisdom says to "Prefer my life-disciplines over chasing after money,and God-knowledge over a lucrative career"(8:10). Seems like we think it's the other way around. If I get money then I'll have knowledge & money is power. But money corrupts & knowledge of the Truth is power.
These chapters reminded me of Jesus saying He was "the Way, the Truth & the Life". I need to keep seeking Him & always be teachable in every circumstance. I get defensive way too easy unfortunately. That's me trying to defend myself instead of surrendering (abandoning) myself to God & letting Him be my White Knight. And of course that all goes back to my timing vs. His timing.
8:14 "I am both Insight and the Virtue to live it out". And in 12 "I am Lady Wisdom, and I live next to Sanity; Knowledge and Discretion live just down the street". God is the complete package. We don't have many gods or have to give up anything when we are His. He is everything that I need.
Can I just say -- I really like proverbs (once we get through all the prostitute texts!
I was thinking in 8:2 & 3 of all the places where wisdom is needed: at the crossroads (so many times I've been at a crossroads; either there are 2 good choices, or 2 not good choices, where it's simply not obvious - - ) when I'm about to enter a situation (at the gate) or when I'm heading down the path. Well, that pretty much covers every minute of every day!
Wisdom is far more valuable than rubies; nothing you desire can compare with it! I've met some very wise people, and some very rich people; and some very wise, rich people. Wisdom outweighs it all -- I'd rather hang out with wise people, whether they're rich or poor. Ya just feel like you want to listen when they speak and process!
GREAT promise in vs 17: those who search will surely find me, but remember - that involves 9:8 & 9: "correct the wise and they will love you. Instruct the wise, and they will be even wiser" so; I need to be willing to be corrected, even embrace it (not always easy to do) and I need to be humble enough to be instructed, even when the instruction is not what I want to hear!
Love the triumphant conclusion in 9:12 If you become wise, you will be the one to benefit. if you scorn wisdom, you will be the one to suffer - - pretty plain; it's my pride that gets in the way of my wisdom (sigh)
I didn't realize that wisdom existed and was ordained before creation existed--but it does make sense (8:23).
And once again in chapter 9 we have the lessons on the prostitute that Solomon so loves to speak about.
I've known a prostitute or 2 ---okay--several--in my time. And there are those that like to draw attention to themselves and seduce---as all good salesmen are trained to do. I think maybe the comparison here is that wisdom is lasting---and prostitutes have a short shelf life. Wisdom is discreet, holy, mighty and powerful etc etc. These are all opposite of most religious prostitutes who are loud, of a lower class and usually thought of in proper circles as the dregs of society---(though that's not always the case.) But I think this is what Solomon was trying to point out in these chapters.
In the punishment God declares for Israel's rebellion over & over He says that "I acted out of who I was, not how I felt". Wow. He was mad enough to destroy them, but His character wasn't that way. I think He wants us to know that we are His so we act/react because of Whose we are, instead of how we feel too. Can't say I'm even close to that yet though. I fight my feelings constantly.
And I thought Jeremiah had it tough! Ezekiel has to pronounce doom & gloom too! Tough life as a prophet & THEN to have your wife, the delight of his life taken from him. And not be able to mourn for her. Wow! I would have been mad that I was punished because of other people's mistakes. I'm so hyper sensitive to unfairness in my life. Poor Ezekiel can't even imagine & the Bible says nothing of his feelings.
At the end of 22 God looks for a righteous person & can't find ONE!??
This really makes me think of how God is going to repay the US as a country for turning their back on Him as well, just like Sherrie mentioned above. Some scary stuff!
Really scary thought (I went back and read it once you mentioned it Chris) that God couldn't find one righteous person. How discouraging for God that Satan had that much sway over His special people. Yeah -- and sometimes it seems like our country is going down the same funnel.
I was sad for Ezekiel too -- at least God understood that he'd need to groan on the inside, but just put a normal front on the outside. Being a prophet is tough work - - but being a pastor is also tough work, trying to turn people to God that are naturally bent toward turning away; also the task of holding people accountable. Like in Ch 22 when God asks Ezekiel, "Are you ready to judge this city? Never an easy task to hold people accountable, first of all -- they don't want to hear it, second of all - - they'll take you down for speaking the truth to them. Being a prophet or a pastor is definitely not for the faint of heart.
Pretty graphic picture of Samaria and Jerusalem (with Oholibah and Oholah) I think God is trying to communicate how very hurt and rejected this made Him feel.
I think one of the most devastating passages of scripture is Ezekiel 20:3 where the elders of Israel come to ask for instruction from the Lord and He replies, I will tell you nothing. Wow---that's an angry God. I pray that I never brass over the heavens like that and anger my Lord.
Hey Linda---you go girl---you speak the truth when you say "....being a pastor is also tough work, Never an easy task to hold people accountable, first of all -- they don't want to hear it, second of all - - they'll take you down for speaking the truth to them."
It's also not an easy task to hold pastors accountable. As in Ezekiel 22:25-29, I've encountered many sinful pastors in Cowlitz County. They have sexual affairs, misuse church moneys with financial mingling of funds. They get away with it by surrounding themselves with yes men who are frightened to hold them accountable. I've witnessed a pastor calling a member into his office and locking the person in the room so the pastor could stand over the person and yell. You have a Pastor advising a woman to get an abortion on Thursday as long as she's in church on Sunday.
But we also have it on a national scale. You have Benny Hinn and Paula White who had affairs with each other and divorced their spouses. You have both Bishop Eddie Long and Paul Crouch of TBN caught in homosexual affairs. And all of these people are still all on tv preaching every day. You have Rick Warren, leader of the one world religion movement and his Chrislam---combining Islam and Christianity---openly working for the antichrist and defiling hiself with the idols of Allah. And no one holds these pastors accountable. NO ONE.
17:3 I'm so thankful that I have a couple of friends in my life who will tell me the truth - even if it hurts me. It's hard to find friends like that. And then Jesus says that if I respond, to forgive me. They don't hold it against me & throw it back at me if I screw up in another area. And I'm learning to forgive & allow people to grow as well. It's basic Christianity I guess, but it's so hard to put it into practice sometimes.
17:10 Why do I expect a pat on the back for doing what I'm supposed to be doing? It's like expecting an A+ when I've only gotten 100%. And like Pastor Mike has said, if I'm doing it to get people's attention or praise, then I might, but I have my reward in that. It's nice to get a thanks for doing your job once in a while, but it shouldn't be my motivation. I shouldn't want to be a Christian just to avoid hell & get to heaven. It's the relationship with Jesus that is my motivation. I just want to be with Him. That's really why it's heaven, I'll be with my Best Friend!
I'm wondering if the other nine lepers said they'd go back & say thank you after they went to the priest because that's what Jesus said to do. But then they got a little distracted with the welcome back parties & didn't know where to go to tell Him thanks. I can see myself in them. I want to be like the other leper though; no distractions, just wanted to see Jesus & say thank you - people could come later - he wanted to see God.
17:21 The kingdom of God is within you. But the religious leaders didn't want that because they were all about the outside & what others could see & what they'd get attention for. Competing with each other for praise from men. Really scary. I want to let Christ work from within me - then I know what people see on the outside is all Him & I don't have to be ashamed & try to hide the real me.
I have always loved the context of 17:26-37. I definitely don't want to be taken away like the people of Noah's or Lot's time. And why would the disciples ask "where?" about the people who were left? They were still there. They wanted to know where the people taken had gone & Jesus plainly says they're dead. Nope, don't want that! I will gladly be left behind!
The tax man & the Pharisee is just another warning for me not to start comparing myself to people but to Jesus. And then throw myself on His mercy to save me & change me.
18:27 "No chance at all," Jesus said, "if you think you can pull it off by yourself. Every chance in the world if you trust God to do it." I know we read it in the other Gospels but I need constant reminders to trust God so I'm always grateful to hear/read it again.
The blind man's faith was rewarded. Can't wait until our's is as well.
Yeah Chris -- that's what I want to; to be that 10th leper that is overtaken with gratitude. It's not something I'm entitled to (I think entitlement is something He's addressing in 17:10), but Jesus is looking for faith and gratitude to be the driving forces in our lives; and out of that comes forgiveness to others. Seems like the 3 are pretty tight.
We (and be we, I mean me) tend to be the Pharisee that keeps looking & comparing with others) I want to be the tax collector and keep looking to Him! I want to be the flower that's blooming in the part of the forest that no one sees:):)
If you cling to your life, you will lose it, and if you let your life go, you will save it. and then we hear in 18 about the rich young man that chose not to follow Christ. Willing to give up all -- and some are asked to act on that; like this young man, or Abraham with Isaac, or Paul and his cushy intellectual hob-nob Pharisee friends. It's one thing to say your are willing -- another to go forward boldly, in gratitude!
The persistent woman is played out in the life of the blind beggar. Nothing would stop them from their goal.
Really appreciated your thoughts today, Chris -- they always take me back to look at the texts again. I need you to talk more about 17:26-37. I don't get His response to the "where" question. It seems like he's saying, read the signs; but I don't see how that answers Where!! Sher - what do you think?
Really appreciated the thought of the 3 (faith, gratitude & forgiveness) being connected. Made me think more about them & the flow of them, hadn't thought of them being chained or a result of the other. Thanks!
17:26-37 is all the same subject(actually starts in v22) - the 2nd coming of Christ. Jesus draws the comparison of Noah & Lot with people not paying attention to the signs (as you said Linda) around them & while the faithful remain, the unattentive were taken away or died. But when Jesus turns to the present day & says that people will be doing everyday things, one will be taken & the other left, the disciples can't pull over the lesson so they ask where? They wouldn't need to ask where about the people left, because they'd be right where they were before, it's the ones taken away that they are asking about, they might have thought that'd it be different but Jesus says it's the same. Look for the vultures & you'll find their dead bodies.
WOW that's a new thought for me; I've always heard that the person "taken" was the the good person that was "taken to heaven" I Never ever thought of the opposite track, that the person "taken" was the one that was destroyed. Totally new thought for me that the person left is referring to the person that is saved; Cool! I need to study and think on this some more!
The flood "took away" the people that were not saved, the fire and brimstone "took away" the people that were once a part of what happened here on the earth. You just might have somethin' there Chris!!
O THAT was a rich reading this morning - - like having breakfast on strawberry shortcake with lots of whipping cream!!
ReplyDeleteI love his encouragement right off the bat: WHATEVER HAPPENS - - rejoice in the Lord. OK -- you probably can't rejoice in the circumstances, but you can always bend your thoughts to the God that loves you -- this will be your safeguard!!
I love his clear instruction about how futile it is to chase after things -- after performance -- it's all worthless compared with the infinite value of knowing Christ Jesus.
I was thinking that God extends love; we extend faith; God extends grace; we extend a life submitted to Him; he extends the abundant life of the fruit of the Spirit to us -- it's a two way connection!
I was reading along saying, yes Paul; that's right - that's right! "I want to know Christ and experience the mighty power that raised him from the dead" You GO Paul - right on! Then came the next sentence - - "I want to suffer with him, sharing in his death (screeeeetch! Wait - do I really want that? Maybe he's talking about baptism -- I can do that; but suffer? die? - I've got more growing to do - - help me Holy Spirit! I need way more submission)
Paul who has this complete desire to be lost in Christ's plan for him -- presses on to possess perfection. It can't be from his own works -- he's already talked about that; so he presses on with focus on God's will for his life -- pressing on to submission, to abandonment -- and that takes pressing; to lay down the control minute by minute.
Also -- when we have different points of vie (vs 15) if we stay open to what the Bible says, and open to the Holy Spirit, then God will make it plain to you. That's a precious promise - because there are confusing issues. I think Paul shows here that the main thing is to know Christ and Him crucified (that's where our salvation centers) the rest will come in time.
Doncha love 4:6&7? I love how bending our minds off worry and on to prayer will give us peace that guards our hearts and minds. Especially our minds - - my mind can go wild with "what ifs?" that rarely happen. What a blessing to relax in His will! He makes it easy, I make it hard.
and finally - Paul's great take on contentment toward the end of 4. I just LOVE the book of Philippians -- just wish it wasn't so hard to spell!
Everything I think is important - Paul says is garbage compared to knowing Christ. He had all this worldly pedigree & said he was ripping it up & throwing it in the trash so that he could embrace Christ & be embraced by Him. That was his whole focus. I remember when my dad was dying, just watching him lose interest in worldly stuff & just read his Bible in his lucid moments. It was sooo neat to see him change his priorities. We don't all get to do that & so I want to do it now, while I'm able. I want Jesus to be my pedigree & forget what this world thinks is important.
ReplyDeleteLike Paul says in 3:9 I don't want a petty, inferior, rules based righteousness. But (v10) I want to personally experience His resurrection power. Not just when I'm physically resurrected but even now I can be transformed.
In 4:2 Paul publicly encourages 2 believers to reconcile. This must be because they had already publicly had differences. And Paul could say this because he had had issues with John Mark, but later said that he was a treasured companion who had helped him a lot so you know he had some experience in reconciliation.
Really appreciate the MSGs take on 4:4 "Celebrate God all day, every day. I mean, revel in him!"
And then 4:6 I need this a.m. "Let petitions and praises shape your worries into prayers, letting God know your concerns. Before you know it, a sense of God's wholeness, everything coming together for good, will come and settle you down". Need that settling down right now.
The paraphrase for 4:13 is a blessing too - "Whatever I have, wherever I am, I can make it through anything in the One who makes me who I am". So, yes, I can make it through this day though calls are coming in while I'm typing. Incredible!
Seems like I really needed this today. Hmmm, can't say it was a coincidence. I can have this peace like Paul says in v23. "Receive and experience the amazing grace of the Master, Jesus Christ, deep, deep within yourselves".
Sigh, back to the phones!
gives me goose bumps to think that maybe God custom designed this study so Phil 3 & 4 would come on the day you needed it:)
ReplyDeleteOh Linda, I finally got time to read your comments. I was right there with you on the knowing that awesome resurrection power & I was stomping on the brakes with ya at the suffering part! LOL
ReplyDeleteAnd I was trying to think positive about this whole thing & I'm so thankful that I have tomorrow off work too & I'm not on call. Even if that's a bit selfish, it helped.
I never realized that it was the same day they were consecrated priests that Nadab & Abihu disobeyed God & died. Sad. To me, it seems like their hearts weren't impressed at all with the holiness of God. They didn't have the true heart of worship when God's presence came down. Kinda like Pastor Mike's sermon Sabbath. We can enjoy the worship service & it's all good there, but it's just an emotional ride & it's all for show. Does it really affect us when we enter everyday life though? Am I being changed because I'm keeping my eyes on Jesus or am I changing because I want people to think I'm this great person because of what I'm doing. Scary. I need to care less what people think about me & be like Paul - who was totally abandoned to Jesus & was willing to lose his reputation & all his worldly credentials so that he could embrace Christ.
ReplyDeleteAll the clean & unclean animals - I can see the wisdom in not allowing the garbage collectors of the animal world (the vultures, pigs, shell fish, etc) to be eaten by humans. Their job is to clean up the world, the carcasses of other animals so why do I want to eat them when they've got putrefied flesh or sickly animals in them. Yuck! I know some people have told me that after the cross everything is clean. Those animals are still doing their jobs, cleaning up garbage. After seeing what shrimp, crabs & pigs will eat (ANYTHING), there's no way I want that in my body. That's just gross. I know it tastes good but it's still garbage. I read an article that they've discovered how to make hamburgers out of human excrement. Just because they add chemicals to it & take all the smell out of it & purify it with ammonia, doesn't change what it is & I'm not touching it!
Why was the birth of a girl more purification time? Seems like this is punishment again for being a woman. Is labored harder on the woman if it's a girl vs. a boy? I don't know. Was it just the culture? It used to be a big deal in every family if there was a boy born to carry on the family name. Now, it doesn't seem like that big of a deal...unless I'm missing something.
I appreciate the compassion of Moses toward Aaron when Aaron said he couldn't carry out his duties due to the tragedy in his family (vs19). It must have been tough not to mourn (vs 6), but even though you might not grieve on the outside -- ya can't help but grieve on the inside.
ReplyDeleteIt does sound like N and A scorned their position and the height of the celebration - - a distraction from the glory of God -- and for some reason, I always thought they were drunk when they did this - but I don't read that in Leviticus - hmmmm; not sure where I got that!
I refuse to eat grasshoppers; even if they are clean.
Yeah Chris - - I was wondering the same thing; why the difference between the birth of a boy and girl? I've had them both -- boys were a LOT harder; but that's just my situation. and what exactly does it mean to be unclean -- seems like it always is associated with blood; is it a health rule, or an illustration rule, or a spiritual rule?
The sons of Aaron place unholy fire in their censors----which reminds me of me. I think, oh--God wont care if I do this little thing or if I go here or if I do such and such a certain way. I rationalize that if I do something just one time it wont matter. This is just another way of saying I'm in control of my life instead of allowing Jesus to be in control of my life. He's teaching me instant and complete obedience to His voice. (The Bible says My sheep hear my voice, ---not my lambs hear My voice)
ReplyDeleteIn verse 10 it says there is a difference between what is holy and what is common. Many times I mix up them up in my life or blend everything together. I'm learning to be Holy before the Lord.
In chapter 11, we have several dietary laws. These laws provided the Israelites specific ways to be holy – set apart for God. I believe that these food rules are still relevant today. Jesus came to fulfill the law---not take it away. And a lobster is just a big cockroach and who wants to eat that?
Interesting about the childbirth thing in chapter 12. I wonder if the sex of a child has different hormonal impacts on the mother. God always does something for a reason. Medically, in the future, I'm sure we'll find out there is a good reason for this law.
Really good thoughts Sher -- and yeah -- I'm not much on big cockroaches either! hee hee!
ReplyDeleteSeeya on Thursday -- hope your 4th is A-mazing:)
Nice personal applications Sherrie, I could really identify. I think I've read where cockroaches are extremely nutritional...or maybe that was grasshoppers or grubs. But if they taste anything close to lobster than I'm not interested because that was nasty!
ReplyDeleteGreat stories today in the reading. But I did get sidetracked with one thing. At the end of 1 it says that Joram succeeded Ahaziah in the 2nd yr of Jehoram son of Jehoshephat. BUT in 3 Joram & Jehos. go to battle together. How's that possible?
ReplyDeleteInteresting that all the prophets & Elisha knew about Elijah being taken from Elisha. BUT obviously none of them knew HOW. I wonder if Elijah knew it wasn't going to be in death, maybe since he told Elisha that "if you see me..." I like Elisha's tenacity. He was tested but he wouldn't be distracted, nice lesson for me here. I'm easily distracted, I need to stay more focused; especially on the important things. Maybe it's because I don't discern if it's important to warrant the distraction. Hmmm...
So Elisha deals very sharply with the lack of respect towards elders. What a hard lesson for the parents of those children to learn as well. I'm sure parents used this illustration a lot when raising their kids. I can see the kids rolling their eyes after hearing it for the umpteenth time too. But obviously it's offensive to God.
Can't relate at all to sacrificing your own son. What a horrendous, desperate act. But here's something to ponder; if an idol-worshiping person is willing to give up everything - even their own flesh & blood to their god; why do we hesitate when we have the REAL God? True that it's similar to being in desperate straits & then promising God you'll serve Him if He gets you out of this alive, but still. That was an extreme act for a fake god, a man-made item. Shouldn't I be just as extreme for the One who made me?
Great lessons in the stories of the Shun. woman & Naaman but I'll stop here. A lot to think about for sure!
Good catch on the Jehoshaphat confusion -- maybe Jeho was like a king/father (England has a queen mother!) or maybe, Jeho was in charge of the army, even after his son became king. Both of these scenerios are unlikely, tho -- as it seems the king has to die before the son takes over.
ReplyDeleteI was just thinking about sacrificing the thing that is most important too you earlier this morning. I was thinking about Abraham, and how he was willing to give God everything - - his son! That'd be a tough give. We don't think a whole lot about sacrifice today - - but I think somewhere along the line, God will call each of us to walk that road in some way. Who is really the god/God in our life?
I was also thinking about how a lot rises and falls on leadership. In ch 1 -- Ahaziah lost a lot of good men because of his temper tantrum. Then a leader under the leader expressed humility- - and God honored it. How is that relevant today? We are led, in this country, by a group of leaders - - but we are held accountable to God as individuals. Same holds true in a community, a church, a family. (not sure where I'm going with this! - let's move on!)
I wonder why Elisha went to Mt. Carmel -- I wonder if he was present when Elijah experienced God's power there -- and he went back to connect.
Again -- another leadership moment; Elisha wouldn't have bothered with the 3 kings, except for his respect for Jeho:)
Didn't realize the harp was that important in prophecying!
Really? attacking a city with slings (3:25) THOSE must have been powerful slings. There was a lot of slinging back in those days; from David to Elisha!
Why did the Israelites withdraw once the king sacrificed his son? It couldn't be because the people inside were angry; they were pretty much captured. There were other statements carried out on walls and rooftops (thinking of Absolum) I guess I just don't understand the culture.
The woman of Schunem didn't focused on the one person that had a connection with God -- she didn't mourn to her husband, she didn't bother telling her tale to Gehazi - - she went straight to Elisha and then wouldn't leave until he came with her. God honors persistence. But I think the honor comes to a humble heart, not a manipulative heart.
Would you have eaten the poison soup if you saw Elisha throw in flour and then say, "it's ok now - go ahead"
Naaman was 100% in once he'd experienced God's power -- ready to do whatever God asked, and checking to make sure he was ok, even though the king had him go to the Rimmon worship - his heart was not there. He must have been a really good man - - seemed like everyone loved him, from the servant girl, to his officers; everyone was pulling for him. I'm guessing God (and all heaven) were majorly rejoicing once Namaan experienced His power and turned!
I would have watched other people eat the soup first before I did! LOL I'm weak in faith. Maybe I'd be braver if I'd seen other things Elisha had done or knew of how Elijah's spirit (really God's) rested on him.
ReplyDeletePsalms 78 I have always enjoyed reading because of it's condensed version of Israel's deliverance & rebellion. It was just a good summary of history. I always can relate to the weakness of the people. I'm tempted to judge, but then I rehearse my life, sometimes I don't have to go back very far either, & I'm the same way. =:0
I am working with God at being constant in my faith & trust of Him & not looking at my circumstances or the people around me.
I have to say though that this reading kinda reminded me of what I'm reading in Unbroken. The POWs are crying out (inwardly if not outwardly) for deliverance from their tormentors. That's what 79 & 80 reminded me of.
I also think about my timing vs God's when I read these. I'm all about immediate relief & no suffering. Paul said it's a privilege to suffer for God & if we want to share in the glory, that suffering is necessary. Seems tho, that God knows what kind of suffering each of us "require" or maybe can endure is a better way to put it. So then I'm back to my cringing trust. One day I hope I can stand up, with my head held high & trust. I will get there - if I surrender.
Christianity is so full of oxymorons.
I'm glad you experience cringing trust too -- good description of how I often feel!
ReplyDelete78:2-4 is such a great intro; why we need to look back - - hidden lessons, stories our ancestors handed down. If we'd ever take the time to look back, there will be lessons -- we can learn from the past celebrations and mistakes.
Then 78 makes it pretty clear that when you don't trust God (I think He honors cringing trust as well as confident trust - but confident is the goal), He will pull you through - - a stronger person. If you turn your back, ignor, scoff, set up other idols - - and we have our idols today - - He will let you go.
Linda, learn from the past. Trust God, trust God, trust God!!
Lorie and I were talking yesterday how it's the difficult nose to nose with disasters that really make you think; take you off of the absent-minded living. It's those hard times that grow us, but we avoid them - - and by we, I mean me.
I don't know if we ever see the growth in the midst of the disaster -- but only as we look back. That's why it's so important to look back, evaluate, learn - - it gives us confidence for what is ahead.
In Psalm 78, apparently God was speaking, but the people weren't listening. (His sheep hear His voice, not his lambs). The people of Ephraim, though fully armed turned their backs and fled when the day of battle came.
ReplyDeleteI do this a lot---Stuff comes up and I huddle up thinking Satan will go away or leave me alone if I pretend I don't see him. It's such poppycock. I have to put on my armor and use all the weapons of warfare to FIGHT the attacks of the enemy--- whether it's disease, relationship issues, financial problems or whatever comes my way. We're to be warriors and take back the territory that Satan tries to steal from us.
And the people forgot about the wonderful miracles of God when He brought them out of Egypt. All they did was murmur. They weren't thankful for the provision of God.
They complained about everything. And their murmuring kept them out of the promised land. This passage really convicted me. I'm trying to learn to be thankful for everything. Dirty dishes--because at least I have dishes---toys all over the apt---because at least I'm blessed to have a grandson who puts them there---demonic neighbors---because I'm learning how to take authority over demons and make them bow to the name of Jesus---no brakes on my car because I know it's an opportunity for the Lord to show up in a big way and give me a mighty miracle.
God was so angry with His people that came out of Egypt that in Psalms 78:61 it says He allowed His glory to be given to the enemy.
Wow---I never want that to happen to me. But it looks like this could happen to the United States soon. Like the old saying --As the church goes, so goes the nation. And the church isn't doing so well at the moment.
Sher - your thoughts on gratitude spoke to me; and also, when reading your thoughts on the warfare and battle against Satan; I was thinking - -
ReplyDeletewe're on a battleship, not a cruise ship! Heard that once from a pastor and never forgot it!
wow Sherrie & Linda, thanks so much for sharing today, I am so blessed & encouraged after reading your thoughts!
ReplyDeleteWisdom says to "Prefer my life-disciplines over chasing after money,and God-knowledge over a lucrative career"(8:10). Seems like we think it's the other way around. If I get money then I'll have knowledge & money is power. But money corrupts & knowledge of the Truth is power.
ReplyDeleteThese chapters reminded me of Jesus saying He was "the Way, the Truth & the Life". I need to keep seeking Him & always be teachable in every circumstance. I get defensive way too easy unfortunately. That's me trying to defend myself instead of surrendering (abandoning) myself to God & letting Him be my White Knight. And of course that all goes back to my timing vs. His timing.
8:14 "I am both Insight and the Virtue to live it out". And in 12 "I am Lady Wisdom, and I live next to Sanity; Knowledge and Discretion live just down the street". God is the complete package. We don't have many gods or have to give up anything when we are His. He is everything that I need.
Can I just say -- I really like proverbs (once we get through all the prostitute texts!
ReplyDeleteI was thinking in 8:2 & 3 of all the places where wisdom is needed: at the crossroads (so many times I've been at a crossroads; either there are 2 good choices, or 2 not good choices, where it's simply not obvious - - ) when I'm about to enter a situation (at the gate) or when I'm heading down the path. Well, that pretty much covers every minute of every day!
Wisdom is far more valuable than rubies; nothing you desire can compare with it! I've met some very wise people, and some very rich people; and some very wise, rich people. Wisdom outweighs it all -- I'd rather hang out with wise people, whether they're rich or poor. Ya just feel like you want to listen when they speak and process!
GREAT promise in vs 17: those who search will surely find me, but remember - that involves 9:8 & 9: "correct the wise and they will love you. Instruct the wise, and they will be even wiser" so; I need to be willing to be corrected, even embrace it (not always easy to do) and I need to be humble enough to be instructed, even when the instruction is not what I want to hear!
Love the triumphant conclusion in 9:12 If you become wise, you will be the one to benefit. if you scorn wisdom, you will be the one to suffer - - pretty plain; it's my pride that gets in the way of my wisdom (sigh)
I didn't realize that wisdom existed and was ordained before creation existed--but it does make sense (8:23).
ReplyDeleteAnd once again in chapter 9 we have the lessons on the prostitute that Solomon so loves to speak about.
I've known a prostitute or 2 ---okay--several--in my time. And there are those that like to draw attention to themselves and seduce---as all good salesmen are trained to do. I think maybe the comparison here is that wisdom is lasting---and prostitutes have a short shelf life. Wisdom is discreet, holy, mighty and powerful etc etc. These are all opposite of most religious prostitutes who are loud, of a lower class and usually thought of in proper circles as the dregs of society---(though that's not always the case.)
But I think this is what Solomon was trying to point out in these chapters.
In the punishment God declares for Israel's rebellion over & over He says that "I acted out of who I was, not how I felt". Wow. He was mad enough to destroy them, but His character wasn't that way. I think He wants us to know that we are His so we act/react because of Whose we are, instead of how we feel too. Can't say I'm even close to that yet though. I fight my feelings constantly.
ReplyDeleteAnd I thought Jeremiah had it tough! Ezekiel has to pronounce doom & gloom too! Tough life as a prophet & THEN to have your wife, the delight of his life taken from him. And not be able to mourn for her. Wow! I would have been mad that I was punished because of other people's mistakes. I'm so hyper sensitive to unfairness in my life. Poor Ezekiel can't even imagine & the Bible says nothing of his feelings.
At the end of 22 God looks for a righteous person & can't find ONE!??
This really makes me think of how God is going to repay the US as a country for turning their back on Him as well, just like Sherrie mentioned above. Some scary stuff!
Really scary thought (I went back and read it once you mentioned it Chris) that God couldn't find one righteous person. How discouraging for God that Satan had that much sway over His special people. Yeah -- and sometimes it seems like our country is going down the same funnel.
ReplyDeleteI was sad for Ezekiel too -- at least God understood that he'd need to groan on the inside, but just put a normal front on the outside. Being a prophet is tough work - - but being a pastor is also tough work, trying to turn people to God that are naturally bent toward turning away; also the task of holding people accountable. Like in Ch 22 when God asks Ezekiel, "Are you ready to judge this city? Never an easy task to hold people accountable, first of all -- they don't want to hear it, second of all - - they'll take you down for speaking the truth to them. Being a prophet or a pastor is definitely not for the faint of heart.
Pretty graphic picture of Samaria and Jerusalem (with Oholibah and Oholah) I think God is trying to communicate how very hurt and rejected this made Him feel.
I think one of the most devastating passages of scripture is Ezekiel 20:3 where the elders of Israel come to ask for instruction from the Lord and He replies, I will tell you nothing. Wow---that's an angry God. I pray that I never brass over the heavens like that and anger my Lord.
ReplyDeleteHey Linda---you go girl---you speak the truth when you say
"....being a pastor is also tough work, Never an easy task to hold people accountable, first of all -- they don't want to hear it, second of all - - they'll take you down for speaking the truth to them."
It's also not an easy task to hold pastors accountable. As in Ezekiel 22:25-29, I've encountered many sinful pastors in Cowlitz County. They have sexual affairs, misuse church moneys with financial mingling of funds. They get away with it by surrounding themselves with yes men who are frightened to hold them accountable. I've witnessed a pastor calling a member into his office and locking the person in the room so the pastor could stand over the person and yell. You have a Pastor advising a woman to get an abortion on Thursday as long as she's in church on Sunday.
But we also have it on a national scale. You have Benny Hinn and Paula White who had affairs with each other and divorced their spouses. You have both Bishop Eddie Long and Paul Crouch of TBN caught in homosexual affairs. And all of these people are still all on tv preaching every day. You have Rick Warren, leader of the one world religion movement and his Chrislam---combining Islam and Christianity---openly working for the antichrist and defiling hiself with the idols of Allah.
And no one holds these pastors accountable. NO ONE.
As the church goes---so goes the nation.
17:3 I'm so thankful that I have a couple of friends in my life who will tell me the truth - even if it hurts me. It's hard to find friends like that. And then Jesus says that if I respond, to forgive me. They don't hold it against me & throw it back at me if I screw up in another area. And I'm learning to forgive & allow people to grow as well. It's basic Christianity I guess, but it's so hard to put it into practice sometimes.
ReplyDelete17:10 Why do I expect a pat on the back for doing what I'm supposed to be doing? It's like expecting an A+ when I've only gotten 100%. And like Pastor Mike has said, if I'm doing it to get people's attention or praise, then I might, but I have my reward in that. It's nice to get a thanks for doing your job once in a while, but it shouldn't be my motivation. I shouldn't want to be a Christian just to avoid hell & get to heaven. It's the relationship with Jesus that is my motivation. I just want to be with Him. That's really why it's heaven, I'll be with my Best Friend!
I'm wondering if the other nine lepers said they'd go back & say thank you after they went to the priest because that's what Jesus said to do. But then they got a little distracted with the welcome back parties & didn't know where to go to tell Him thanks. I can see myself in them. I want to be like the other leper though; no distractions, just wanted to see Jesus & say thank you - people could come later - he wanted to see God.
17:21 The kingdom of God is within you. But the religious leaders didn't want that because they were all about the outside & what others could see & what they'd get attention for. Competing with each other for praise from men. Really scary. I want to let Christ work from within me - then I know what people see on the outside is all Him & I don't have to be ashamed & try to hide the real me.
I have always loved the context of 17:26-37. I definitely don't want to be taken away like the people of Noah's or Lot's time. And why would the disciples ask "where?" about the people who were left? They were still there. They wanted to know where the people taken had gone & Jesus plainly says they're dead. Nope, don't want that! I will gladly be left behind!
The tax man & the Pharisee is just another warning for me not to start comparing myself to people but to Jesus. And then throw myself on His mercy to save me & change me.
18:27 "No chance at all," Jesus said, "if you think you can pull it off by yourself. Every chance in the world if you trust God to do it." I know we read it in the other Gospels but I need constant reminders to trust God so I'm always grateful to hear/read it again.
The blind man's faith was rewarded. Can't wait until our's is as well.
Yeah Chris -- that's what I want to; to be that 10th leper that is overtaken with gratitude. It's not something I'm entitled to (I think entitlement is something He's addressing in 17:10), but Jesus is looking for faith and gratitude to be the driving forces in our lives; and out of that comes forgiveness to others. Seems like the 3 are pretty tight.
ReplyDeleteWe (and be we, I mean me) tend to be the Pharisee that keeps looking & comparing with others) I want to be the tax collector and keep looking to Him! I want to be the flower that's blooming in the part of the forest that no one sees:):)
If you cling to your life, you will lose it, and if you let your life go, you will save it. and then we hear in 18 about the rich young man that chose not to follow Christ. Willing to give up all -- and some are asked to act on that; like this young man, or Abraham with Isaac, or Paul and his cushy intellectual hob-nob Pharisee friends. It's one thing to say your are willing -- another to go forward boldly, in gratitude!
The persistent woman is played out in the life of the blind beggar. Nothing would stop them from their goal.
Really appreciated your thoughts today, Chris -- they always take me back to look at the texts again. I need you to talk more about 17:26-37. I don't get His response to the "where" question. It seems like he's saying, read the signs; but I don't see how that answers Where!! Sher - what do you think?
Really appreciated the thought of the 3 (faith, gratitude & forgiveness) being connected. Made me think more about them & the flow of them, hadn't thought of them being chained or a result of the other. Thanks!
ReplyDelete17:26-37 is all the same subject(actually starts in v22) - the 2nd coming of Christ. Jesus draws the comparison of Noah & Lot with people not paying attention to the signs (as you said Linda) around them & while the faithful remain, the unattentive were taken away or died. But when Jesus turns to the present day & says that people will be doing everyday things, one will be taken & the other left, the disciples can't pull over the lesson so they ask where? They wouldn't need to ask where about the people left, because they'd be right where they were before, it's the ones taken away that they are asking about, they might have thought that'd it be different but Jesus says it's the same. Look for the vultures & you'll find their dead bodies.
WOW that's a new thought for me; I've always heard that the person "taken" was the the good person that was "taken to heaven" I Never ever thought of the opposite track, that the person "taken" was the one that was destroyed. Totally new thought for me that the person left is referring to the person that is saved; Cool! I need to study and think on this some more!
ReplyDeleteThe flood "took away" the people that were not saved, the fire and brimstone "took away" the people that were once a part of what happened here on the earth. You just might have somethin' there Chris!!